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MadStu
24-08-2006, 00:18
Just saw this on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9735789323

http://avshoppe.com/AV/DVB-T/BB.gif


Any good?

Scouse Monkey
24-08-2006, 00:28
search n00b ;)

nah mate they suck. we looked at these a year or so ago. utter pap on the move.

MadStu
24-08-2006, 01:12
haha, didn't think so, they claim it works perfectly up to 200kmh though, :lol:

Scouse Monkey
24-08-2006, 02:49
yeah maybe if you have an antenna the size of the hubble telescope on your roof!

ccsnet
24-08-2006, 10:51
search n00b ;)

nah mate they suck. we looked at these a year or so ago. utter pap on the move.And stationary round here.... - Wait for PC DVB-H devices - thats the way forward.

Terran

MadStu
24-08-2006, 15:20
DVB-H eh? what's the difference?

Scouse Monkey
24-08-2006, 15:26
well they added a H so obviosuly it is better....:doofywave: <--- aimed at silly manufacturers who keep adding new letters to things to make you want it!

ccsnet
24-08-2006, 16:13
DVB-H is the new mobile phone version - basically its DVB-T stuffed down a DAB feed..... less quality but stable on the move and a better infrastructure.

Terran

DaveC
24-08-2006, 16:23
whats the H for? is it already being broadcast?

ccsnet
24-08-2006, 16:24
whats the H for? is it already being broadcast?H = Handset and yes it is...

I think it Vodafone that anounced the first handset about a month ago... wont be long now... and there are definatly SDIO cards out there already.
Terran

MadStu
24-08-2006, 16:35
so it's broadcast like regular digital tv then? Not through 3G or similar data transmission where you'll need to pay for the amount you use?

ccsnet
24-08-2006, 17:05
so it's broadcast like regular digital tv then? Not through 3G or similar data transmission where you'll need to pay for the amount you use?Nope - DVB-T ( Normal DTT as you know it ) goes via existing transmitters - eg Winter Hill etc ... DVB-H piggy backs on the DAB ( Digital Radio ) system using that infrastructure & transmision protacol with a DVB feed inside at a lower res ( pic size ) and bit length ( quality ).

Basically - anay where you get DAB you'll get DVB-H

Does that help ?

Terran

MadStu
24-08-2006, 18:47
err.. So it's free to receive the data? Just need to buy the initial hardware to receive the broadcasts and then it's all free thereafter right?

2Fast
24-08-2006, 19:20
yup

DaveC
24-08-2006, 19:27
how can you receive it on a phone? as far as I am aware, they havent even made ones that work on FM without headphones being plugged it.

all sounds very clever though, its as if ive been living under a rock or something cos i havent heard anything about all this.

think i will have a look at what sort of receivers are about now...

ccsnet
24-08-2006, 19:37
See post 10...

Terran

MadStu
24-08-2006, 20:32
how can you receive it on a phone? as far as I am aware, they havent even made ones that work on FM without headphones being plugged it.

all sounds very clever though, its as if ive been living under a rock or something cos i havent heard anything about all this.

think i will have a look at what sort of receivers are about now...

:whs:

MadStu
24-08-2006, 20:35
http://digital-lifestyles.info/copy_images/nokia-n92-lg.jpg (http://digital-lifestyles.info/display_page.asp?section=platforms&id=2734)

MadStu
24-08-2006, 20:48
Ooooh....

The DVB-H (digital video broadcast, handhelds) standard is derived from the terrestrial DVB-T and the satellite DVB-S standards. DVB-H specifies that content be broadcast in bursts, enabling handheld receivers to power down at intervals to conserve battery life.

Does this mean no commercial breaks? Or does it mean that, for example, 10 minutes of content is compressed into 1 minute transmission time?

If it's the latter, does it mean we might have to wait a few minutes for the next transmission to begin before we can watch TV?

DaveC
24-08-2006, 21:30
i imagine it would mean for example that each five seconds worth of video are sent over in a second. so the receiver would be only active for 20% of the time.

or i could be completely wrong..

DaveC
24-08-2006, 21:36
next question, i suppose all this is a bit (or a lot like freeview) does it have the same channels?

The_Tiger
28-08-2006, 22:43
when these things out to buy? im getting bored of the same tracks inthe car pc -.- still testing that centrafuse out cos its the most user friendly thing i can find :/ unless u guys can tell me of some better and maybe even free ones?? :D